Rush Limbaugh has spent a lot of time talking about Fast and Furious, Holder, and Obama this week and has added a lot of clarity to the whole thing. Here's an example, from yesterday. Background, a caller asked Rush about the independents, but he refers to Fast and Furious throughout.
I'm joking but I'm serious, Kevin. "We can't criticize Obama! It will irritate the independents!" We can listen to Pelosi, we can listen to Obama, we can listen to Democrats go after us -- me and Republican politicians -- all day long. That doesn't upset the independents. Have you ever noticed that hard-hitting criticism of Republicans never bothers the independents? Pursuing so-called Republican excesses -- going after Bush, trying to stop the Iraq war, trying to "frog march" Scooter Libby or Karl Rove into jail -- that never irritates the independents.He goes on an on about this: there's plenty more where this came from. Things like how Democrats have lost 10 points nationally. The independents are just as often if not more often disenchanted Republicans (tired of the Establishment) as they are moderates or disenchanted liberals. The Democrats seem fine and dandy with Watergate which was over a lesser cime than deliberately arming criminals across the border. And, some audio clips from Romney from the Latino Conference in Florida. Here's one of them:
Why if you listen to the Democrats, the independents are nothing more than full-fledged, solid, 100% Democrats! Well if that's true, why are they independents? I'm sorry, I just don't buy this. We've got a constitutional violation. We've got an attorney general who is lying to the elected representatives of the people, and Issa is supposed to dial it back because that might irritate the independents?
This has been a trick that the Democrats and the media have been using my entire life to get Republicans to shut up and stop fighting for what they believe in. And the sad thing is that the moderate Republicans buy into it and believe it, along with a lot of Republican political consultants who get hired to run campaigns of Republican candidates. It is a noose around our neck that we willingly place and then we step to the tree limb.
So, no. It makes no intellectual sense whatever, Kevin. (...)
So, Kevin, are the Democrats really trying to help us when they warn us what the independents might do? Are the independents really people that don't care about the Constitution being violated? Are the independents perfectly fine with running American guns to drug cartels in Mexico with hundreds of people being killed? And the independents are gonna get mad if we try to get to the bottom of that? Is that what we're being told to believe? Don't swallow that stuff, Kev! Come on. Wake up.
ROMNEY: After three-and-a-half years of putting every issue, from loan guarantees, to his donors, to Cash for Clunkers, putting all those things before immigration, now the president has been seized by an overwhelming need to do what he could have done on day one, but didn't. I think you deserve better. Some people have asked if I will let stand the president's executive order. The answer is that I will put in place my own long-term solution that will replace and supersede the president's temporary measure. As president, I won't settle for stopgap measures. I'll work with Republicans and Democrats to build a long-term solution.I love that Romney takes it to Obama on the timing of his 'executive order amnesty.' 'Bout time someone did.
And even more Rush: a caller questioned what program existed similarly to Fast and Furious under Bush.
RUSH: The program that started under Bush was called Wide Receiver. It was run, to the best of my knowledge -- and we'll double-check this, of course. I've looked at it a little. But Wide Receiver was run out of Tucson. It was one-fourth the size of Fast and Furious. And the purpose of Operation Wide Receiver was to actually track the weapons to find out where they went so that this whole thing could be stopped. They tracked the weapons to find out where and which cartels got them and so forth. The motivation was to find a way to stop this stuff by finding out who was involved in all of it.Please read all of this link. There's oh-so-much more. So much that news media leaves out but is absolutely important to understand if we're going to get to the bottom of this. Like why is Obama covering for Holder? What did he know and when did he know it? Is he impeachable? Why does he think he's above the law and even more importantly, can we remind him that he isn't?
RUSH: Now, Fast and Furious was run out of 11 cities. They did not track the weapons. The purpose for Fast and Furious was to have guns flooded into Mexico. The news would then report the mayhem that was created: The latest crime, mayhem, assaults, deaths, chaos, whatever, that these drug cartels commit every day. And then the objective was that the news stories would say, "And American guns were used!"
And the end result was supposed to be that you and me and everybody else would get outraged that American guns were so easily available to Mexican drug cartels and that we would rise up in anger and demand an assault weapons ban. The Bush administration had no desire for any subterfuge. There was no attempt there to create crime. There was no attempt to have American weapons used en masse in crimes for the purpose of undermining America law at the time or shifting it.
In Wide Receiver, people were arrested.
The whole point was to catch people.
It was a plan that was devised ultimately to stop the trafficking. Fast and Furious increased the trafficking on purpose and nobody was arrested. Hundreds of people were killed with these guns. A border agent, Brian Terry, was killed. Operation Wide Receiver was shut down after its weapons dropped off the grid and the ATF realized that they'd made a mistake with it. They brought the operation to a screeching halt because they had determined that it didn't have the end resulted that they wanted.
Obama and Holder saw it and built on it for an entirely different purpose. That's the short version of it because we're really short on time here. But I'm glad you asked about it, and I'm gonna endeavor here to get more detail on this for all of you tomorrow. Because the Democrats are trying to make the claim that it all started under Bush. And it's a typical Democrat lie, folks. As far as I know, nobody was arrested in Fast and Furious. There were arrests made in Wide Receiver.
*Friday Rush talked even more about Wide Reciever vs. Fast and Furious.
The Bush administration, as part of Wide Receiver, notified the Mexican government when arms and drug smugglers were crossing. When the guns were being walked across the border or when they had been purchased legally, being taken back to Mexico, the Mexican government was notified. At least 1,400 arrests were made as part of Wide Receiver. Now, once ATF found out the smugglers were disabling the tracking devices, the RFID tracking devices that were planted in the guns, they ripped them out and then the guns were lost. So the program was shut down in October of 2007. Once the bad guys discovered the tracking devices, the program was ended, in 2007. Ended.
Now, here's Fast and Furious by contrast. Fast and Furious began in October of 2009. Obama is in his tenth month. Wide Receiver doesn't exist. It'd been shut down for two years. Fast and Furious involved over 2,000 guns. Wide Receiver was 1,400 guns.
Roughly. No tracking devices were planted in the Fast and Furious guns. The regime didn't care where they ended up. There were no tracking devices. No effort was made to track them. No helicopters. There was no on-the-ground surveillance of the straw purchasers. None of it. The guns were sold, they were walked across the border, and that was it. Four federal agencies were involved in maybe as many as 10 cities in five states.
In contrast to Wide Receiver, the Mexican government was not notified the program even existed. They did not use tracking devices or aircraft to try to find and track the smugglers. The local ATF field agents were ordered not to follow the straw purchasers. Fast and Furious is as bad as everything you have conjured it to be in your mind. Wide Receiver has nothing in common, other than guns crossing the border. That's it. Federal agents, furthermore -- are you following all this, Snerdley? -- federal agents were not allowed to interdict the guns and they even ran interference for the smugglers with local law enforcement on multiple occasions to make sure those guns made it across the border.
No effort was ever made to arrest the straw purchasers, the smugglers, by local law enforcement or anybody else. And none were arrested. The program was closed down only after the deaths of at least 200 Mexican civilians and two federal agents, border agent Brian Terry and ICE agent Jaime Zapata, were linked to the smuggled weapons. Now, it is important to understand that Wide Receiver had been tried and it had clearly failed before Obama's team decided to undertake Fast and Furious.